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Gaillo 07-30-2009 04:49 PM
Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
Yesterday, I was at a local area coin shop to pick up a few silver bullion rounds. One that I found was very interesting - I've never seen one like it. I wanted to post photos, but I don't have any image hosting - so I'll just describe it and hopefully someone can tell me what it is.

First off, it is standard diameter, but weighs in at only 0.9 Troy ounces. It has most of the writing in hebrew, with a small section that looks arabic. It has a large songbird of some kind perched on a branch with leaves on the obverse, and some figs and fig leaves on the reverse. It has the english text "The Time of the Singing of Birds Song of Songs 2-12" on the obverse, and the text "Israel" and "The Fig Tree Putteth Forth her Green Figs Song of Songs 2-13" on the reverse along with the number "2" and the text "New Sheoalim" under the 2.

Overall, it's a very beautiful coin - despite the low weight and lack of .999 printed anywhere on the coin. It is silver, no doubts about that... just unusual.

Does anyone know what this bullion round is? Very curious...

livtocruz 07-30-2009 04:54 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaillo (Post 1843914)
Yesterday, I was at a local area coin shop to pick up a few silver bullion rounds. One that I found was very interesting - I've never seen one like it. I wanted to post photos, but I don't have any image hosting - so I'll just describe it and hopefully someone can tell me what it is.

First off, it is standard diameter, but weighs in at only 0.9 Troy ounces. It has most of the writing in hebrew, with a small section that looks arabic. It has a large songbird of some kind perched on a branch with leaves on the obverse, and some figs and fig leaves on the reverse. It has the english text "The Time of the Singing of Birds Song of Songs 2-12" on the obverse, and the text "Israel" and "The Fig Tree Putteth Forth her Green Figs Song of Songs 2-13" on the reverse along with the number "2" and the text "New Sheoalim" under the 2.

Overall, it's a very beautiful coin - despite the low weight and lack of .999 printed anywhere on the coin. It is silver, no doubts about that... just unusual.

Does anyone know what this bullion round is? Very curious...
You don't need to worry about image hosting. Take a pic, load it on to your computer. Then use the additional options area (manage attachments) below where you post a reply and upload the image.

TomD 07-30-2009 05:00 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
Check over on the General Discussion board, there are a lot of guys over there that just love all things Hebrew or Israeli. :bear_wub:

Seriously, like livtocruz says, just drop the image in your computer somewhere, go to "manage attachments" and attach it.

Tallships 07-30-2009 05:25 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
http://www.commem.com/prod05f.htm

Tallships 07-30-2009 05:26 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
http://www.commem.com/images/Gold_Co...ght_Gold_f.JPG like this?

Tallships 07-30-2009 05:27 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
<!--msnavigation--> The Nightingale and Fig
1996/5756
Israel's Sixth Coin in the "Holyland Wildlife" Series
"Behold, the autumn has passed, the rain has gone, blossoms are seen in the land, the time of the Nightingale has come, the voice of the turtledove is heard; the fig has formed its first fruit; the vines in blossom give forth fragrance". Song of Songs, 2, 11-13
These verses describe Springtime in the Holy Land, the end of the rains, the blossoming of the fruit and the Nightingale is about. Israel is located on the pathway of the flight of the nightingale from Europe to Africa. Especially during the spring, it is possible to hear their singing from amidst the shrubbery.
The fig is the first fruit to be mentioned in the Bible. It is one of the special "Seven Species" and from antiquity, it has been an important and inseparable element of the landscape of the Holy Land.


Coin Description
Front
A Nightingale with the inscription, "The time of the singing of Birds" (Song of Songs, 2,12) and the date "1996-5756" in Hebrew and English.
Reverse
A fig leaf with its fruit and the inscription, "The fig tree putteth forth her green figs" (Song of Songs, 2,13). The denomination "1, 2 or 5" with "New Sheqel" or "New Sheqalim". At the left, the State emblem. "Israel" in Hebrew, English and Arabic.
The proof coins are mintmarked with a Hebrew 'mem'. The uncirculated silver coin is mintmarked with a 6 pointed star below the denomination.
NIS-New Israel Sheqalim


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Actual gold weight: 1/10 & 1/4 oz. - Encapsulated and housed in a display case from the Bank of Israel


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HLW 6a
</td> <td class="xl24" style="height: 12.75pt;" valign="middle" width="113" align="center" height="30">2 NIS Proof</td> <td class="xl24" valign="middle" width="102" align="center" height="30">Silver/.925</td> <td class="xl24" valign="middle" width="75" align="center" height="30">38.7 mm</td> <td class="xl24" valign="middle" width="94" align="center" height="30">28.8 grams</td> <td class="xl26" x:num="4724" valign="middle" width="75" align="center" height="30">2,500</td> <td class="xl25" x:num="" valign="middle" width="75" align="center" height="30">65.00</td> </tr> </tbody></table>


Encapsulated and housed in a display case from the Bank of Israel


Proof-Like: A Mint State coin struck on a standard quality planchet. The coin displays a mirror type finish, but of lesser degree than a full Proof strike. A small six pointed "Star of David" mintmark struck on the "Nightingale" coin below the denomination.
Proof: A coin which was made with special care. The coins are struck with extra pressure using polished dies. The planchets are specially selected and polished. The coins exhibit a mirror-like surface in the fields and a frosted appearance on the raised points of the coin. A small Hebrew 'mem' mintmark is struck on the "Nightingale" coin below the denomination.


Also, available:
The Silver Proof coin is also offered together with a First Day cover of the Israel Philatelic Service which has three stamps of the Palestine sunbird (from the "Singing Bird" Series). (PNC)


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Philatelic Numismatic Cover with Silver Proof Coin
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70.00
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Gaillo 07-30-2009 05:32 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
Tallships - YES!!! That's it!
However... mine has "2" instead of 1 or 5, and has the figleaf (like the "1" coin) not the grapes. Also, I weighed it again and put my scale on Ounces instead of Troy Ounces, and it weighs exactly 1 "normal" Ounce.
Thank you!

Mined Games 07-30-2009 06:20 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
The Hebrew writing should have been a tip-off that the round was less than a full ounce!:biggrin:

Gaillo 07-30-2009 06:22 PM
Re: Unusual Silver Round... Please help identify.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mined Games (Post 1844115)
The Hebrew writing should have been a tip-off that the round was less than a full ounce!:biggrin:
Indeed! The thought DID cross my mind after weighing it...:s1:

No need to bash the Jews... they do a pretty good job of bashing themselves!


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